![]() All of these asphalt products will melt ~ 180☏ - 190☏ when new. That's a good point, but it isn't the entire explanation. I would rather see someone pay for low end products then pay for mid end products and receive low end products. I think that if someone is buying a particular product that is advertised as butyl, but is obviously something different then they might as well run to Home Depot and know what they are getting. I have heard many people asking if I tried the mineral spirits test, well cleaning the utilifty knife off took a little bit of Goo Gone aka orange flavored mineral spirits.Īs a non scientific guess, Raam Mat and B quiet are asphalt based, get you, your car and everyone helping you covered in the stuff and it comes off with mineral spirits. I sold the two rolls I bought, made the mistake of trusting another compay that claims butyl and it's indistinguishable from Raam Mat.B Quiet Ultimate was the brand. I had an issue with Raam Mat, told Rick about it and never heard anything back. I only support people using asphalt based mat since it seems that most manufacturers are selling asphalt based mat and passing it off as buty. They charge less because eDead costs them less and once again you get what you pay for. No! They buy a product that uses much cheaper Mylar instead of the far superior but more expensive aluminum foil used by the others. People like to believe that these products are comparable to more expensive competitors and that ED is just a bunch of great guys or buys in such volume that they can sell their product for less. You are either going to buy crap at a low price/ft² or you are going to pay a little more. I've been looking for cheaper alternatives for years and they really don't exist. Either the markup isn't as great as some seem to think it is or Industrial suppliers mark their products up as much as sound deadening companies. When you compensate for this, they are no cheaper. Only problem is that they are very thin - 1/3 to 1/2 the thickness of products intended for sound deadening. There actually are some decent quality butyl/aluminum foil flashing tapes that will work pretty well. The way to save money on sound deadening is to use less. Using asphalt in a car is utter foolishness. This means that the people who buy FatMat are paying extra to have someone ship them exactly the same material they can buy at Lowe's for less. I have challenged the owner of FatMat to describe any difference between the two products and he has declined. ![]() People complain about it coming off on their hands all the time. Peel & Seal and FatMat are indistinguishable except for a cheesy blue logo that gets inked onto FatMat. They are an authorized dealer of MFM products, including Peel & Seal. FatMat is sold as a side line by a roofing supplies distributor. Some people will insist on using asphalt regardless of the facts so let's look at the logic of using FatMat in particular - as a way to gain some insight into the thought processes of those who endorse this particular product. People perpetuate this nonsense because it is cheaper per square foot - an almost completely worthless metric. To add insult to injury (actually injury to insult) the fumes are toxic. ![]() Asphalt is no cheaper in use, requires much more work to install and is subject to failure. Much less of a proper butyl/aluminum foil product will do the same job as much more asphalt. Asphalt is much less effective than butyl. The deficiencies of asphalt have been established beyond any doubt. Anybody reading this thread and considering following this path should do a search. It really distresses me to see people endorsing Peel & Seal, FatMat and other asphalt products for automotive sound deadener use - especially on DIYMA. ![]() Somewhat gooier butyl than Dynamat Xtreme and noticeably gooier than Second Skin and Cascade. ![]() It really does suck if substandard product made it out of his door and into your cars, but I have tested many samples of RAAMmat over the years and it has all been butyl with NO detectable asphalt content. I know in the past, this has included compensation for replacing defective material. I also recall that when you've brought it up in other threads, the owner of RAAMaudio has jumped in with offers to make it good. It sounds like there may have been a problem with some of the RAAMmat some of you received. All asphalt products of this type have rubber compounds mixed in, so this product is ASPHALT. ![]()
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